by Geoffrey Ciani – When Manny Pacquiao (53-3-2, 38 KOs) squares off against Juan Manuel Marquez (53-5-1, 39 KOs) for the third time on Saturday, it will have been over three and a half years since last they met. On March 12, 2008 Pacquiao walked away with an extremely close and competitive split decision victory in a fight many people felt Marquez deserved to win. As it turned out this would be Pacquiao’s last fight at 130 pounds, as he would soon make the move up to 135. A lot of fans were disappointed that Pacquiao did not immediately mix it up again with Marquez, but most figured their paths would cross again sooner or later. Few could have predicted, however, that Pacquiao would go on one of the most impressive runs in boxing history before a third fight with Marquez would finally take place.
When Pacquiao challenged David Diaz on June 28, 2008 for the WBC lightweight title it was widely viewed as nothing more than a testing the waters fight. Not many were expecting Pacquiao to lose. If the controversial win Diaz scored against common opponent Erik Morales told us anything, it suggested that at worst Pacquiao should be able to win a decisive points victory. The real question was whether or not Pacquiao could carry his power up with him. He did. He administered a prolonged beating on a very courageous but overmatched Diaz who finally succumbed to the assault in round nine. It was a good win for Pacquiao, but nothing sensational. Diaz was basically viewed as nothing more than a belt holder, as the top dogs at the time were Juan Diaz (unified champ) and Joel Casamayor (linear champ) when Pacquiao signed to take on David Diaz. Incidentally, Juan Diaz lost his titles to Nate Campbell a week earlier. So it seemed there were some fairly decent opportunities at 135, but Pacquiao had bigger fish to fry.
The prospect of a fight between Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiao seemed laughable when news first broke. In fact it was very poorly received by the general boxing public. Pacquiao, after all, had just one fight at lightweight! Oscar was fighting at junior middleweight for the last seven-plus years! How could Pacquiao possibly overcome the gargantuan size advantage enjoyed by De La Hoya? Very few observers were even giving Pacquiao a remote chance in this one. Sheer physics suggested that Pacquiao was in for a prolonged beating. This was not the same as Shane Mosley bypassing 140 for a mega payday with De La Hoya eight years earlier. Mosley had been a career lightweight moving up to welter, whereas Pacquiao had started his career at 106 pounds! This one had “mismatch” written all over it, and what a mismatch it was! Only it was De La Hoya who got thoroughly dominated and outclassed by the speedy pinpoint precision punching from Manny Pacquiao. This was December 6, 2008.
A new superstar emerged.
The De La Hoya victory was what really established Pacquiao on the map. It was both a literal and figurative passing of the torch encounter where Pacquiao assumed the mantle as boxing’s biggest star. Even Floyd Mayweather Junior had not beaten De La Hoya so impressively and so thoroughly, and there is where it all started. Pacquiao versus Mayweather—when will it happen? Money Mayweather, of course, was retired at the time. This is why Pacquiao landed the De La Hoya fight in the first place, as Oscar was originally gunning for the rematch with Floyd, and it appeared likely to happen. It did not. Instead Pacquiao had arrived and suddenly fans were excited for a big super fight with Mayweather that seemed to have materialized out of nowhere. This one had been nowhere on the radar, but then, there it was. Could it happen? Well it was probably no coincidence that Floyd decided to announce his comeback so soon after Pacquiao’s dominant effort against De La Hoya.
A fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather would surely have to happen sometime in the future, but first Pacquiao decided to go back to the division he initially skipped over. When it was first announced Pacquiao would be facing 140 pound top dog Ricky Hatton on May 2, 2009 a lot of people still doubted Pacquiao’s abilities north of lightweight. Hatton, after all, was no De La Hoya
! De La Hoya was slow, he was old, he was a part time fighter, he was badly weight drained, and he was far removed from his prime. Hatton, on the other hand, was young, fresh, strong, transforming into a more complete fighter under the guidance of Floyd Mayweather Senior, and had just the right style to give Pacquiao hell. Or did he? Apparently not, as Pacquiao ended up demolishing him less than two rounds. Manny dropped him twice in the first and finished him off with a devastating bomb in the second. This was a fight that many felt would be tough and competitive, even for those favoring Pacquiao. As an interesting side note, Pacquiao had once again outperformed adversary Mayweather Junior against a common opponent.
Despite shockingly impressive victories against De La Hoya and Hatton, Pacquiao still had his doubters and not without good reason. Although Hatton did get to Pacquiao a little bit in moments that have long been forgotten, Pacquiao had yet to prove his ability to take a flush shot from a bigger fighter. Certainly a guy like Miguel Cotto could test Pacquiao in that regard, and on November 14, 2009 Cotto got his chance and test him he did. While some observers made a big deal of the fact that this fight was fought at a catch weight of 145 pounds, most did not give it much consideration because Cotto had weighed 146 pounds in his previous fight with Joshua Clottey. Would one pound really make that big a difference? During the fight Cotto mixed it up with Pacquiao early and actually had the advantage in the first round. It almost appeared that Pacquiao had finally bitten off more than he can chew, but his incredible combination of speed, accuracy, and angles began baffling the Puerto Rican fighter. Pacquiao dropped Cotto twice during the first half of the fight. After that Cotto went into survival mode as Pacquiao stalked him throughout the ring until the referee finally called a halt the bout in the twelfth and final round.
This was the last time Pacquiao would be perceived as a little guy. The victory over Cotto made him a bona fide elite fighter in the welterweight division. Pacquiao was a household name and the biggest star in boxing. With the string of improbable victories against De La Hoya, Hatton, and Cotto, commentators began mentioning Pacquiao’s name alongside true legends of the sport like Sugar Ray Robinson and Henry Armstrong. By this point in time the idea of a third fight between Marquez and Pacquiao seemed worthless. Floyd had already returned to the ring and dominated Marquez, who looked absolutely awful carrying the extra weight. Pacquiao had proven his meddle as a legit threat to anyone south of junior middle. There was really only one fight people wanted to see Pacquiao involved in, and that was a fight with Mayweather. Unfortunately, despite agreeing on the finances of the fight, “Olympic Style Drug Testing” prevented the fight from coming together and became one of the most highly disputed topics on boxing message boards.
Since the Cotto fight Pacquiao’s fights have not been as fascinating on a number of levels. For starters there was not the same level of intrigue. Even though Pacquiao’s next three opponents—Joshua Clottey (March 13, 20102), Antonio Margarito (November 13, 2010), and Sugar Shane Mosley (May 7, 2011)—were all significantly bigger men who were legitimate threats, Pacquiao was expected to beat these guys. There was no longer the question of Pacquiao being tested. Sure, these guys were tough fighters and big men, but the perception was that Pacquiao was better. And he was! He proved that by thoroughly outclassing all three of those foes in matches that were frighteningly one-sided. These are fights that, had they all taken place a year or so earlier, would have been considered dangerous for Pacquiao. But they weren’t because there was (and is) only one man that fans and the general public view as a true challenge for Manny Pacquiao, and that man is Floyd Mayweather Junior. Now Sergio Martinez is out there too, but he will continue to be stuck on the outside looking in. Pacquiao-Mayweather is the fight the public has demanded.
Some fans are viewing Juan Manuel Marquez as a real threat based on styles. After all, Marquez’s style gave Pacquiao so much trouble in their first two fights that it could just be one of those things in boxing where two guys will always match up well against each other. That is probably not the case here, however. Since they last met Marquez has been on a slow but visible decline. He is older, slower, and not quite as sharp as he once was with his timing and reflexes. On the flip side, Pacquiao is bigger, stronger, and has seemingly entered his prime fighting years since right after their long awaited rematch that happened back in March 2008. Marquez already proved he did not have that same “certain something” that made him special when he attempted fighting Mayweather at a higher weight. Pacquiao is better adjusted to these higher weights and he has also improved, whereas Marquez has declined. This fight will likely be another mismatch win for Pacquiao, but this time it will not be going to the cards. In fact, it will be surprising if Marquez survives to see the bell for the start of the fifth.
With Mayweather Junior having beaten Ortiz in a fight that only escalated his public persona as the villain, the timing could not be better for Pacquiao to obliterate Marquez and put an exclamation point on his three-fight series with the man who has been his biggest rival inside the squared circle. As much as Mayweather embraces the villain persona, in the same way Pacquiao is often perceived as the hero in this on-going out of the ring drama between Pacquiao and Mayweather. Should Pacquiao beat Marquez with an explosive stoppage victory, it would be the perfect way to pave the road to the showdown we have all wanted to see next May. Time will tell if this storybook vision will play out to kickoff what will become the biggest fight in boxing’s long celebrated history, but things are looking promising—at least for the moment.
OFFICIAL PREDICTION:
Manny Pacquiao TKO3 Juan Manuel Marquez
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This article was also published November 9, 2011 at East Side Boxing
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There’s no use in fighting Pacquiao coz I know my son will beat him, I beleive that li’l Floyd will KO this little fella, Pacquiao doesn’s have power, he’s got only 38 KO. My son got 26 KO
My son is not affraid of him. Belive me I tell ya, so why fighting this little fella
If ever Pacquiao and Gayweather fight will push through that would be the boring fight we’ll ever see in the history of boxing. Gayweather will not fight once he taste the punch of Pacman he will just ran around the ring. Gayweather don’t have any answer with the five punch combination of Pacman. He may elude the first two punch but the 3,4 and 5 punch he won’t. NO NEED for that fight. Gayweather will only cheat the buying public with his running performance…….anyway, he only knows how to beat his wife…….
I will bet all my family circles of negro’s in my country. My son will whoop this little fella.
My son will beat him in track and field
betcha!!! 100 meters even 1 km
Ey gayweather sr. your son maybe much bigger but the d!*K of your son is much smaller about 3 inches
Yeah right old man! Enough the talks just do whatever you gotta do with your chicken floydie… Make him understand that his too coward to face pacman!!!! Logically speaking, if he wants to fight the champ then make him do it anytime and anywhere!!!!
And so why he fought marquez, ortiz, mosley, etc., you already knew that gayweather jr. will beat them? i know, junior fought them because they knew they can beat them, but against pacquiao, junior doesnt have a chance, that’s why he will not going to fight the best pound for pound of all time, the little fella. logical!
BUANG KA JAMA JAMA MAN KA OI BAYOT NA IMO ANAK D MOSUKOL NI PACQUIAO
Yep, My ol man was right. I am not afraid of packie.
I can beat him silly. T’ lil guy’s no match.
I’ll kick his !@3!..
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Floyd Jr. my father will NEVER fight Pacquiao. Pacquiao will win via KO in round 5 against Marquez.
Man this A-side meth ain’t goin to help pacquiao. My boy Floyd will gonna kick his ass big time. He got no skill man. Tell you this man, if he ain’t hiding something take the test.
Granpa says, he is afraid to fight the pac coz his ass will be whoop
Marpedz can bring in all his ped-increased muscles courtesy of his confessed crook conditioning coach Angel Hernandez, but the great Pacman will send him to dreamland. Froid Jr will surely send himslef back in his gaycation again hiding in his yellow yacht.
muh boy junior. neva thought he gonna be a great pug. ah aint no hunch muthafucka..when he wuz 11 all he did wuz jerk off all day. hihihi..
it will be a pac hatton part 2.. pac too strong lightning fast! marquez will be blown to oblivion in rnd 1 together with hes brand new muscles, pee drinking and crap eating technique! I fear for marquezs life! I hope he does not end into coma or in funeral!
latest 690k ppv according to HBO/and SEC on the record for star power.
pac is singing with jimmy kimmel while maynever is being destroyed and humliiated on a radio interview hahahah!
http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-blasts-away-radio-war-words-erupts–45645
if maynever is the best why is pac fighter of the decade, 3 time fighter of the year, 8 div champ, 3 yyear nmber 1 pound for pound, time magazine cover, congresman, nike hp compaq henessy and many other endorser? maynever- criminal, fraud, surrounded by thugs and convicted drugpushers, will serve 30 years in jail, a complete garbage! pac doeasnt need that garbage!
he is just having nmbers coz he is an american and that’s his advantage!
now if maynever can achieve what pac has achieved I will agree with you! numbers mean nothing being the best fighter ahhahahaha! it is on your achievements like on what ive stated abovee and not on ppv nmbers!
they will talk about pacs reluctance on testing 30 yrs from now? and how do you think that boxing will require such BS random blood testing on every fight? it is only maynever who’s making such excuse to roadblock a pac figght! after that maynever retires, no one will be talking about that blood testing BS! that issue will only be remembered as his excuse to duck pac hahah! olympic blood test is so expensive, no boxing comission will make it as a requirement ahahhahaha.
maynever is doing everything just to negate pacs power on their fightnight! drawing blood on the night before a fight? drawing blood in the 5th round of their fight _wtf-! why not draw blood right exactly after the 12th round? as obvious that blood test BS is advantagous to gayfaggot coz he doesn’t need power on that fight coz he will basically just jab and run all night! while pac will need all his power to pour hundred strong punches to pressure faggot! drawing blood on the night of the fight is both psychological and physical advantage for maynever! pac need not to be mentally and physically distracted to beat him! its all about his mindgames! do you understand my point?
pac will never step back! he is not like maynever who always runs backwards ahahah.. my opinion is pac as a boxer is dominating not only one division unlike ali, pac has climbed up, he took the challenges , bigger taller heavier foes,.. centurys will pass and pac would still be the 8 div champ! no one can surpass it, your grandchildren wil ask you who won the most chmpionship in different div, youll say the once fighter of the decade pac, and who’s got the longest undefeated rec youll answer penito lopez 51-0 then marciano 49-0 43 ko and so forth, who’s got the most ppv youll say delahoya with maynever, ppv nmbers isn’t important! century from now maynever will never be remembered as the undefeated great coz there are greats who has a longer undefeated record lets face it come on , he’ll only be remembered as the greats along with sugar ray leonard, tommy hearns, hagler, duran.. pac will always be separated or will rank higher than them coz they didn’t achieve what pac has achieved 8 div champ, fighter of the decade and that will leave a mark on history books!
hahahah never been beaten BS! he lost to castillo on their 1st fight! marciano, calzaghe, penito lopez and so forth! zero means nothing! pac achievements fake? hahaha america gave those awards to pac! it is you who is refusing to see his achievements coz no black has evr been 8 division champ(could have been 10 if pac had not skiped 2 div) , coz pac got the fighter of the decade award over maynever, and pac is 3 time fighter of the year compared to maynevers one! just accept the fact and swallow that pac alone is whooping blacks asses! no one ever could break pacs 8 division record hahahahha no black will ever! hahaha
Chicken floyd gayweather knows only how to beat a wife………..
Let’s all watch the fight between Manny Pacquiao and Marquez on PPV and see/feel the excitement we are waiting for. I for one believe that this fight will not last long, in Pacman’s favor. Let’s see how Marquez does after all his comments about defeating Pacquiao twice already.
I see Marquez running for the 1st time because he cannot withstand Manny’s superior firepower. Manny by KO in Round 5.
This Pacquiao-Marquez III fight is like an armalite versus a.45 caliber pistol. You don’t have to ask me who will the armalite be come Nov. 12 (Nov. 13 in the Philippines).
nice articles,awesome!
MANNY PAQUIAO WILL WIN
To poor people, a new child will be born, Quatrain #3-35 Line 2
Will exhibit an excess of masculine courage; Quatrain #1-86 Line 2
His fame even to the kingdoms of the Orient will increase; Quatrain #3-35 Line 4
Never again a destroyer so fearful. Quatrain #4-54 Line 2
He will shake up the Spanish & the English. Quatrain #4-54 Line 3
With forefinger & a knock he will strike the forehead, Quatrain #10-8 Line 1
Their blood will come near to being spilled, Quatrain #2-97 Line 3
THE YOUNG LION SHALL OVERCOME THE OLDER. Quatrain #1-35 Line 1
His spirit now tempered with tranquility & repose, Quatrain #4-56 Line 2
Seven thousand years & another shall take up his throne; Quatrain #1-48 Line 2
He will, Pacquiao, as a demi-God be honored; Quatrain #1-25 Line 2
Let he who reads this, consider carefully. Quatrain #6-101 Line 1
marquez will be ko by pac in 1 to 2 rounds it depends on how marquez fight pac if he fight just like before he will kiss the canvass earlier but if he fights for survival the fight will go to the distance.
It is true that Manny began his full stardom when he beat De La Hoya. It was also the De La Hoya fight that Manny had applied a new boxing technique: his leading left straight. This leading lefts are also the ones that beat Hatton, Clottey, Cotto, Margarito, and Mosley.
It’s very close to impossibility that Marquez will win the fight against Manny on November 12. Mayweather? Ahh, the new technique will definitely destroy him.
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